Legislature(2011 - 2012)BUTROVICH 205

03/14/2012 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES


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Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled
+= SB 123 ALASKA MINING DAY TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 123 Out of Committee
+= SB 159 SUSITNA STATE FOREST TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= SB 181 CLOSING CERTAIN LAND TO MINERAL ENTRY TELECONFERENCED
Moved SB 181 Out of Committee
+= SB 205 CHINOOK RESEARCH & RESTORATION ENDOWMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
                  SB 159-SUSITNA STATE FOREST                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:47 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR WAGONER announced SB 159  to be up for consideration [SB
159, 27-LS1179\M was before the committee].                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:45:01 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR LINDA MENARD, sponsor of  SB 159, introduced her chief of                                                               
staff and said  they were working on a  committee substitute (CS)                                                               
that would address  two items. First, it will  exempt the private                                                               
inholdings  that lie  within the  proposed forest  boundaries and                                                               
secondly, it  will address intent  language that  Senator Stedman                                                               
spoke to during Monday's meeting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MIKE ROVITO,  chief of staff for  Senator Menard, said he  had no                                                               
testimony and was ready for public testimony.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WAGONER found no further testimony off net.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:46:26 PM                                                                                                                    
NICK STEEN,  member, Ruffed Grouse  Society-Southcentral Chapter,                                                               
MatSu,  AK,   supported  SB  159,  but   proposed  modifying  the                                                               
boundaries to include all unencumbered  state lands draining into                                                               
Cook Inlet  between Beluga  Lake and  the southern  boundaries of                                                               
the Denali National and State  Parks. He explained that currently                                                               
the bill  is comprised of  14 non-contiguous parcels of  land and                                                               
keeping   this  land   in  state   ownership  under   the  forest                                                               
designation  is important  to  guaranteeing  continued space  for                                                               
recreational  use   of  ever  expanding  population   centers  in                                                               
Southcentral and  for wildlife,  and to  retain the  character of                                                               
the land most people came to Alaska to experience.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
He said a state forest  is the least restrictive land designation                                                               
that can be managed for  everyone's benefit with the exception of                                                               
those wishing  to see land  transferred to private  ownership. As                                                               
the  population  of   Southcentral  increases,  the  recreational                                                               
demand can no  longer be met if land is  continued being released                                                               
into private ownership.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STEEN said  numerous land  disposal programs  throughout the                                                               
area have  been considered and  much of the waterfront  land with                                                               
easy access points  has already been ceded  to private ownership.                                                               
These private  inholdings will make access  for timber extraction                                                               
difficult.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He  stated that  interspersing  additional transfers  of land  to                                                               
private  ownership   within  the   land  designated   for  forest                                                               
management  makes no  sense at  all. Under  the recently  enacted                                                               
Susitna Matanuska Area  Plan (SMAP) some of the areas  that he is                                                               
requesting  to be  designated as  a state  forest are  slated for                                                               
land disposal for cabin sites or agriculture.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Transfer  of land  into private  ownership as  envisioned by  the                                                               
drafters  of  our  state  constitution  is  laudable,  Mr.  Steen                                                               
stated, but  as Governor  Hammond said, it  is the  ultimate lock                                                               
up. Private  ownership denies public  use of the  specific parcel                                                               
that frequently controls  access to adjacent public  lands, and a                                                               
NIMBY attitude influences management  of public lands within view                                                               
of that parcel.  This NIMBY attitude impacts  the state's ability                                                               
to  manage  timber  resources,  wildlife  resources,  and  mining                                                               
activities.  Those  who  drafted  the  constitution  didn't  ever                                                               
envision  the   population  growth   that  Alaska   has  recently                                                               
experienced.  A forest  designation  for this  entire area,  even                                                               
though  it  is  not  all productive  timber  land,  will  provide                                                               
uniform management guidelines throughout the area.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Multiple  land   designations  lead   to  conflicting   land  use                                                               
regulations.  A forestry  designation  is  the least  controlling                                                               
land use pattern possible and  will afford future generations the                                                               
greatest   opportunity   to   experience   Alaska.   The   forest                                                               
designation can be modified in  the future to accommodate changes                                                               
in  needs.   Returning  private  land  to   public  ownership  is                                                               
difficult, time consuming and cost prohibitive.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
In  summary, Mr.  Steen said,  this is  the last  remaining large                                                               
parcel of  state land in Southcentral  that can be set  aside for                                                               
public  use   and  enjoyment.  Effective  management   of  timber                                                               
resources  enhances  wildlife  populations, creates  an  industry                                                               
utilizing a  renewable resource that improves  the economic basis                                                               
of  the community  while supporting  the demand  for recreational                                                               
areas  to hunt,  trap,  fish, snow  machine,  hike and  otherwise                                                               
enjoy the great out-of-doors.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:50:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CARL  PORTMAN,  Deputy  Director,  Resource  Development  Council                                                               
(RDC), Anchorage,  AK, supported SB  159. He said  the Department                                                               
of Natural  Resources (DNR) currently  manages 9.5  million acres                                                               
of  forest land  in the  Matanuska and  Susitna Valleys.  Of this                                                               
land, timber  management is allowed on  approximately 2.1 million                                                               
acres. The remaining land is  designated for other uses including                                                               
land  sales,  recreation,  water   uses  and  fish  and  wildlife                                                               
habitat.  Over 3.1  million acres  is protected  in legislatively                                                               
designated state parks, refuges and public use areas.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Establishment of  the forest  would insure  that some  land would                                                               
remain available for long term  forest management. It would allow                                                               
the Division  of Forestry to  more actively manage the  lands and                                                               
vegetation to  promote a  variety of forest  ages, which  in turn                                                               
would  maximize  the  sustainable  supply of  timber  from  state                                                               
timber base  and provide  for more  diverse and  healthy habitats                                                               
for  wildlife. In  addition, active  management  would also  help                                                               
reduce wildfire risk.  The Division of Forestry  would manage the                                                               
state  forest  for   a  long-term  supply  of   timber  to  local                                                               
processors and retain land in  state ownership for other multiple                                                               
uses. An enhanced long-term timber  supply would help support the                                                               
forest products  industry, provide  fuel for  sustainable biomass                                                               
energy projects and create new jobs.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
It  would  also benefit  the  recreational  sector as  the  state                                                               
intends to  develop access to  new state forests and  encourage a                                                               
broad range of  multiple uses. Those multiple  uses would include                                                               
an  annual   timber  harvest   and  provide   important  economic                                                               
opportunities to local communities,  businesses and residents. It                                                               
is  important to  keep in  mind, Mr.  Portman said,  that SB  159                                                               
would establish  a new  state forest  from state  lands presently                                                               
designated for forest management.  The Susitna State Forest would                                                               
be  managed  consistent  with the  management  intent  under  the                                                               
current Susitna  Matanuska and the  Southeast Susitna  area plan.                                                               
Alaska's  Forest Practices  Act  would also  apply to  management                                                               
activities on  the forest  and is designed  to protect  both fish                                                               
habitat and water quality.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PORTMAN summarized that RDC  supports SB 159 and believes the                                                               
proposed  state forest  will  be  of much  benefit  to the  local                                                               
economy creating  and sustaining much  needed jobs in  the forest                                                               
products industry while providing many other opportunities.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:53:46 PM                                                                                                                    
THOR STACY, Alaska Professional  Hunters Association, Juneau, AK,                                                               
supported SB 159. He said for an industry that relies on fore-                                                                  
sighted management  practices for  renewable resources  on public                                                               
land they  see the advantages  of the  intent and the  concept of                                                               
this bill,  specifically the  potential for  habitat improvement.                                                               
And in  general, they support  the concept of  renewable resource                                                               
use  and development  in conservation  on public  lands. He  said                                                               
their members rely on this access for opportunity and viability.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:55:22 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. STACY  said he hoped  their "constructive concerns"  could be                                                               
worked out in the management plan  for state forests as it has in                                                               
the past.  He asked for some  ability to work access  in terms of                                                               
timing to hunting seasons with  any kind of timber development or                                                               
infrastructure that  would be commercial  in nature  and outreach                                                               
to members that use the  game management unit in question, mostly                                                               
Unit 16.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The other concern  his organization has was just  the ability for                                                               
there to  be interagency communication  in the subsets of  DNR to                                                               
make  sure that  hunting  opportunities are  retained along  with                                                               
other multiple uses.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WAGONER  asked him to  tell the committee where  he came                                                               
from to testify.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. STACY said he came from Juneau.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WAGONER commented  that  he was  from  Wiseman, way  up                                                               
North.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. STACY remarked  that the forests up in that  area are "pretty                                                               
diminutive in stature."                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WAGONER  found  no further  testimony  and  closed  the                                                               
public hearing. He set SB 159 aside.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR PASKVAN  said Mr. Steen  from Ruffed grouse  Society was                                                               
talking about  adding some land to  this forest and he  wanted to                                                               
know if Mr. Maisch had any comment on that.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:57:48 PM                                                                                                                    
CHRIS MAISCH,  State Forester,  and Director  of the  Division of                                                               
Forestry,  Department of  Natural  Resources  (DNR), Juneau,  AK,                                                               
responded that  Mr. Steen was  encouraging the size of  the state                                                               
forest  to  be   increased  because  all  the   lands  that  were                                                               
classified  for  forestry  purposes   under  the  area  plan  are                                                               
proposed to  be in the  state forest. That area  planning process                                                               
had a  lot of public  input and interagency coordination  and has                                                               
identified  other state  lands for  other  purposes: habitat  for                                                               
wildlife,  agricultural purposes,  settlement,  and  a number  of                                                               
others.  To acquire  additional land  for the  state forest,  the                                                               
division would have  to negotiate with other  state agencies that                                                               
have the  lands designated  in other ways  for higher  and better                                                               
use. It wouldn't  be impossible to make changes, but  it has been                                                               
already  vetted strongly  and this  is the  package they  came up                                                               
with.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WAGONER said he would hold SB 159 in committee.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
draft CS SB 205 v.D.PDF SRES 3/14/2012 3:30:00 PM
SB 205
Draft CS SB 205 v.D - sectional.pdf SRES 3/14/2012 3:30:00 PM
SB 205
SB 205 HB 332 - Map of Public Member Regions.pdf SRES 3/14/2012 3:30:00 PM
HB 332
SB 205
SB 205 BSFA problem document 3-12.pdf SRES 3/14/2012 3:30:00 PM
SB 205